{"id":1681,"date":"2020-10-15T13:57:48","date_gmt":"2020-10-15T13:57:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/nacr.info\/WordPress\/?p=1681"},"modified":"2020-10-15T17:30:24","modified_gmt":"2020-10-15T17:30:24","slug":"tom_fitton_on_durham_probe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/nacr.info\/WordPress\/index.php\/2020\/10\/15\/tom_fitton_on_durham_probe\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201c\u53f8\u6cd5\u89c2\u5bdf\u201d\u4e3b\u5e2d\u6c64\u59c6\u83f2\u987f \u5173\u4e8e\u5e0c\u62c9\u91cc\u901a\u4fc4\u95e8\u7684\u8bbf\u8c08"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right has-small-font-size\">\u7f16\u8bd1\uff1aLee<br>\u53d1\u7a3f\u4e8e2020\u5e7410\u670815\u65e5\u7f8e\u4e1c\u65f6\u95f4\u4e0a\u53489:57<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Tom Fitton on the Durham Probe, Flynn Case Misconduct &amp; New 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Jekielek : \u6211\u6f84\u6e05\u4e00\u4e0b\u6211\u4e4b\u524d\u63d0\u5230\u7684\u5185\u5bb9\uff0c\u57fa\u672c\u4e0a\u2026\u2026\u60a8\u77e5\u9053\u2026\u2026\u6839\u636e\u8fd9\u9879\u65b0\u62ab\u9732\uff0c\u5e0c\u62c9\u91cc\u00b7\u514b\u6797\u987f\u4e8e2016\u5e747\u6708\u6279\u51c6\u4e86\u8be5\u8ba1\u5212\uff0c\u7136\u540e\u8054\u90a6\u8c03\u67e5\u5c40\u4e8e31\u65e5\u542f\u52a8\u4e86\u201c\u4ea4\u706b\u98d3\u98ce\uff08\u901a\u4fc4\u95e8\uff09\u201d\u8c03\u67e5\uff0c\u5e76\u83b7\u5f97\u4e86\u60a8\u6240\u83b7\u5f97\u7684\u8fd9\u4efd\u6587\u4ef6\u3002<br><br>Tom Fitton : \u8fd9\u5c31\u662f\u7535\u5b50\u4fe1\uff0c\u8fd9\u662f\u5f7c\u5f97\u00b7\u53f2\u5353\u514b\uff08Peter Strzok\uff09\u5199\u7ed9\u5f7c\u5f97\u00b7\u53f2\u5353\u514b\u7684\u5907\u5fd8\u5f55\uff0c\u7528\u4ee5\u6279\u51c6\u5f7c\u5f97\u00b7\u53f2\u5353\u514b\u7684\u5907\u5fd8\u5f55\u3002 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\uff0c\u6211\u7684\u610f\u601d\u662f\u4ed6\u4eec\u8c08\u8bba\u53d6\u4ee3\u96f7\uff08Christopher Wray\uff09\uff0c\u4ed6\u4eec\u8c08\u8bba\u5b89\u6392\u4e00\u4e9b\u4e0d\u540c\u7684\u4eba\u8fdb\u4f86\u4f8b\u5982\u683c\u6797\u5185\u5c14\u6216\u897f\u5fb7\u5c3c\u9c8d\u5a01\u5c14\uff0c\u4f46\u6211\u4e0d\u77e5\u9053FBI\u771f\u7684\u80fd\u4ece\u8fd9\u79cd\u75af\u72c2\u4e2d\u6062\u590d\u8fc7\u6765\uff0c\u56e0\u4e3a\u6ca1\u4eba\u76f8\u4fe1\u4ed6\u4eec\u4e86\u3002<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jan Jekielek : \u5982\u679c\u4f60\u8981\u548c\u603b\u7edf\u8c08\u8bba\u8fd9\u4e2a\u95ee\u9898\uff0c\u4f60\u8ba4\u4e3a\u8fd9\u4e9b\u89e3\u5bc6\u7684\u9996\u8981\u4efb\u52a1\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\uff1f\u6700\u91cd\u8981\u7684\u662f\u4ec0\u4e48\uff1f<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tom Fitton : 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